The FIRST SELEDA Chat

Speaking of madness, here are some excerpts from last month's chat. And, really, isn't it a great thing that we will never actually be in a real time room all together?

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[RKD] damn, been a while since i saw that nick :)
[Daedalus] hehe
[Daedalus] which one d'you prefer?
[misqilqil] L... where is L...........
[RKD] L is Daedalus
[Daedalus] L is performing "assisted suicide" on WebTyrant RKD
[Daedalus] RKD, i resent you bossing me around and stuff.
[misqilqil] assist away....
[RKD] resent is such a strong word
[Daedalus] hmm...
[Daedalus] well, did it touch a nerve or two goshdarnit?
[misqilqil] r... mechase yante wuleta...
[Daedalus] damn, i haven't used that word in a while!!! "goshdarnit"
[Daedalus] back in the day when we substituted sh*t w/ shooting stars
[Daedalus] ah...
[misqilqil] i used gabdarnit once
[Daedalus] haha

And then God said... "Let there be silence"...

[Daedalus] ah, i excuse them for being late
[Daedalus] it's the natural order of things
[misqilqil] not that seleda is a different breed
[Daedalus] well, they might conform to the western paradigm, u know
[Daedalus] seeing how they act all snobbish and stuff
[Daedalus] in which case they should have been here at 19.00:00:00
[Daedalus] aight, i ramble
[Daedalus] RKD, i think i should bizounce
[misqilqil] snobbishness is a virtue....
[Daedalus] uhm, and exactly which Psalm is that stated in?
[misqilqil] 99.1
[Daedalus] ah
[Daedalus] 1/2 truth, Mis (can i call u mis?)
* [RKD] sings jeneganamana adina yekechey hey, ...
[Daedalus] snobbishness is a virtue to snobs. the righteous are humble.
[Daedalus] didn't read the whole thing
[Daedalus] lied by omission
[Daedalus] i like, i like. u a lawyer?
[misqilqil] me?
[Daedalus] ok RKD, where is errr'bady?

And then there were three... and four... and five...

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[Daedalus] wow, ppl really *did* mark their social calenders for this thing
[RKD] one more to add to ze pyle
[misqilqil] Red.... sorry... rkd ameleNa neger new
[Daedalus] i'm not sure if that's a good thing.
[RKD] lol, D
[Daedalus] for real, RKD
[misqilqil] welcome Yeneta... did u have trouble loggin on? if so, i can tell you WHO TO BLAME.
[Red] Thank you Misqil
[Red] Nor blenal yeneta!
[Daedalus] welcome Yeneta
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[RKD] technical problem?
[Daedalus] what's the technical problem?
[RKD] Guest30: you might wanna change your nick from the creative one this dimbajam server gave you
[Daedalus] nice excuse for not gathering a small crowd
[misqilqil] it is... er, technical...as in things that go ka-bloom.
[RKD] type in "/nick ******" where ****** will be up to you.
[Red] what is the problem....are you running this site from CA... is this a rolling block-out or something?
[misqilqil] heh heh... ehem... dadi... mneeeeeeeewwwwww
[Daedalus] i mean, for gathering a small crowd
[Red] Is the chat room sponsored by Eth. Telecom?
hi guys
[Red] Hi Guest30

And just as the fun was going to star..... da-raaaaaaaaaa... TseTita askebari...

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[Seledama] Selam...Selam ... SELAM!
[RKD] uh-oh ... i see a crowd in the making
[Red] selam seledama
[misqilqil] meCHoh tikil new indE?
[Daedalus] selem seledama
[misqilqil] Seledama... eTan'nunn Qenessssssssssss
[Red] I thought the article was very discriptive
[misqilqil] Red.. what else did you think about the article
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We talked about Mekasha's Mother...

[Red] It reminded me the very thing of libs mateb or masateb. I thought the greyish water desciription was interesting
[misqilqil] Yeneta.. what about u? did u read the article?
[Seledama] I admit the thing I liked most about the article was that it forced me, contiuously, to face up to things i'd rather not think about. and it did it in a non-judgemental way
[misqilqil] Yep. same here.... especially the desciption of the mother being derided by her neighbor.
[Bruck] abet abet selam bilenal
[RKD] see now you got 'em thinkin, seledama
[Red] Misq., the article touches upon so many social issues. You have a drunken father, who is described as irresponsible. You have a very loving and selfless mother...
[misqilqil] I love Fasil's style... i like the anachy of making her the hero
* Seledama spanks herself...and RKD...just cuz
[misqilqil] anarchy. sorry
[Seledama] guest 30 you there?
[Yeneta] the man thinks raising a retarded son is the mother's responsibility
[Yeneta] and the woman accepts her fate
[misqilqil] Right. and she is the "cursed" one... so he "tries his luck somewhere else.
[Seledama] Yeneta, that brings up all kinds of questions doesn't it...and not only about disabled children
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[Yeneta] I found the part where she worries what would happen to her son if she dies first, very poignant
[misqilqil] such as, seleda-mama
[Red] May be Yared was thinking of Ethiopia...?
[Seledama] misq...let me ask you about his style. at first i found it rather intimidating...
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[misqilqil] Fasil has such incredible way of writing .. so much so that, like Red said, you can actually remember the ritual of libs maTebing
[Yeneta] and I wanted to give that woman who verbally abuses her, a good spanking
* Seledama is in favor of spankings
[misqilqil] ooooooohhh... spanking.... :-)
[Yeneta] hehe
[misqilqil] ehem
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[Seledama] hi Wub...your thoughts?
[misqilqil] rkd, what did you think of the piece?
[misqilqil] "Ga ga ga chirrrrrut! he he he he gagli gagaligligli!" he gurgle joyfully flailing his arms. He beams drooling
[misqilqil] I love the ending....
[Seledama] me too, misq...no happy Hollywood tying up of loose ends
[misqilqil] "Mekasha, Ayalnesh's consolation, is happy because
[Seledama] exactly, Red. and that's both what probably keeps her going but torments her the most. and the author really brings that out.
[misqilqil] Seleda will adopt him
[Daedalus] dang, must we be so morbid, Red. :)
[Seledama] dunno if that's not worse than eating flies, misq
[Seledama] Yeneta, i'm thinking Mekasha would end up on the street...like so many do
[Yeneta] I guess so too
[misqilqil] bad, bad, Daed. i think Yeneta was doling out spankings earlier.
[Red] the reality of the article...i know its a novel.. but Yared
* Seledama mababel's Daed...'sokay.
[Seledama] who's Yared?
[Bruck] yared is king of the hill
[Daedalus] and like Seledama said, it's emotionally charged ... suggestive of things like what would happen if Mekasha died
[Seledama] uh...okay. i thought that was the Titanic guy...or was that the world?
[Daedalus] but w/out dramatic language and what not
[Red] i meant to say Fasil, forgive me
[Seledama] RKD, doesn't Daedalus' answer smack of that getting-over thing we'd do in class...repeat what was said and nod convincingly?
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[Daedalus] and the tone, seemingly singy-song like, casual
[Bruck] daedalus take time to digest
[misqilqil] Seledama... mnnnew???
[Daedalus] but the undercurrents
[Bruck] no need to rush
[Bruck] take it easy daedalus
[Daedalus] Bruck :) just making due.
[Seledama] sorry, misq
[misqilqil] No, she's right.. i like the understated potency of the writer.
[Daedalus] honestly tho, it's great
[Red] Daedus, I agree with you his style was very nonchalant...sort of as a matter of factish
[Daedalus] misq, exactly
[Yeneta] I think a writing style that presents a story without telling the reader what to feel , is effective
[Daedalus] Yeneta, well put
[Bruck] yeneta : is that why i didn't feel anything after skimming through it?
[Seledama] bruck .. you didn't feel anything? really?
[Bruck] maybe because i was on crack when i read it
[Red] Bruck, thanks
[Yeneta] hehe
[Daedalus] bruck, re-read it. it deserves an attentive read.
[Seledama] ohh....crack. wow, seleda on crack is like...out of this world.
[Daedalus] as do all articles of course
[misqilqil] Yeneta, do you write?
[Seledama] Red, do YOU write?
[Yeneta] not me
[Red] yes
[Yeneta] I wish I could
[Bruck] Daedalus: do you write?
[Yeneta] but I enjoy reading good writing
[Red] I actually wrote a couple of pieces to seleda before
[misqilqil] Red, may I ask which ones?
[Red] one in education piece and another in exile
[Daedalus] Red, what did u write?
[Bruck] seriously, i started reading the mekasha piece and after like a few sentences it was kinda depressing so i skimmed through it
[Seledama] cool...red. i'm duly impressed.
[Daedalus] Bruck, ya once in a a while.
[Seledama] bruck, that's exactly why i made myself read it more closely.
[Red] Let's talk about Fasil now
[Seledama] as a culture i think we turn away or ridicule things that don't fit our vision of reality.
[Bruck] seledama: you like reading depressing stuff?
[Red] would you mind explaining "as a culture" Seledama
[Daedalus] or perfectly actuality, for that matter
[Bruck] good question red
[Daedalus] anything excessively realistic or unrealistic is not cool to think about
[Daedalus] we find the happy medium
[Seledama] in a way, that's why everyone's presence here makes me all warm and fuzzy -- you're all just freaks like me !
[Bruck] daedalus: not when you are on crack!
[Daedalus] but i'm not sure if that's a unique to habeshas.
[Seledama] i don't think as Ethiopians we're that different from other "cultures" but i have to admit i find our need to conform or make others conform overwhelming
[wub] that
[Bruck] seledama: is this based on hard evidence?
[RKD] seledama, i think you hit the mismar gimbaru lai
[Bruck] RKD: i think seledama got it all wrong
[RKD] Bruck, is "when you are on crack" based on hard evidence?
[Bruck] rkd: lilakilish indae?
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[Red] I think in any culture such out of the ordinary nature tends to attract "attention" partly because we don't know how to handle it.
[Red] I love you wub
[Seledama] ere fqr b' adebabay. i love it!
* Daedalus is lost ... this thing is taking philosophical twist
[Bruck] let's reform our culture then!
* Daedalus brushes up on BS'ing skillz, prompto
[Bruck] this depressing culture of ours
[misqilqil] Red.... you love me too?
[Red] yes
[Seledama] daed, you crack me up. what other articles have made you say hmmmm....or...are there some neurosis you can share with us?

And after all of that, we took a break... a reality break...

[Seledama] Daed, you're a woman?!
[misqilqil] i too was intimidated by amariNa poetry until i read some of solomon deressa's stuff.
* Daedalus flashes ...Female, indeed
[Seledama] wow...i really like Solomon Deressa's book
* Daedalus thinks, perhaps that wasn't kosher
[Bruck] tsegaye [gebre medhin] is like GOD
* Seledama says what's kosher...and it is!
[wub] no he isn't like God
[Yeneta] I must confess, I tried solomon deressas poems, but most of them bounced off my thick skulls
[Yeneta] skull
[Red] he has two
[Seledama] really, yeneta? some of them are a bit racy which i also like. to go back ot the culture thing, i also think we're extraordinarily repressed.
[Bruck] ok ok tsegaye is beyong god
[wub] no he isn't beyond God either
[Bruck] seleda: nice
[misqilqil] Seledama wins "Best Generalizer Award" of the evening.
[Bruck] say more seledama
[Seledama] i think he's great, but i can think of greater people, like Britney Spears. now SHE rules.
* Seledama is sooooo just kidding.
[Yeneta] so seledawoch, how do you manage to get in touch with writers?
[Seledama] misq, you think? i would happily engage you in some discussion on the repression of ethiopians.
[Red] To like Solomon or Tsegaye, you must be patient first
[Daedalus] hey if Bush can be prezident, why can't Britney be poet laureate
[misqilqil] Solomon Deressa is the quintessential poet... even his very RAUNCHY stuff... i read it twice and aloud until i realize "hello"!
[Bruck] tsegaye is like god
[Bruck] he's like god's god man
[Bruck] c'mon
[RKD] Seledama, that Britney joke wasn't funny ... i just boiled my keyboard in my yefela demm :-)
[Red] bruck take it easy
[Seledama] oh daed....don't even joke about that!
[Bruck] no, no you don't get it... tsegaye is GOD
[Bruck] he is the man!
[Bruck] tiweraredaleh?
[Seledama] RKD, my bad. Kozmo will deliver one to you in a...oops..they went belly up so you're on your own....
[Red] yes he is the man
* Seledama to RKD
[Bruck] thank you

[Red] Seledama, I'm planning to contribute soon. I'm just too tied up with stuff
[Seledama] REd, when when when!
[Bruck] qoy qoy who is RED?
[Red] soon soon soon
[Bruck] commie minamin nech indae?
[Red] no, no, no, bruck
[Bruck] Red: how was quebec?
[Seledama] bruck, who are your heroes à la Mekasha's Mom?
* Seledama will get Bruck to do more than nitpick if it kills her!
[Bruck] my hero number one: the retarded boy
[misqilqil] why?
[Bruck] my hero number 2: the dead sister
[RKD] he's thinking outside the box
[Red] are you still on crack....just asking
* [RKD] grinz
[Seledama] what box, rkd?
[Red] I think he is in the box
* Seledama is a nouvelle ireNa for organic virtual cattle
* Seledama embwwwwwwaaaaaaa
[misqilqil] Seledama, is this chat going to stay?
[Seledama] i'd like to think so although the turnout hasn't been that encouraging today
[Yeneta] endih aynet neger limedugn yilal
[misqilqil] i am on chat Tsom and i still came.
[Red] embwa bey lamitu, lamitu...korma weladitu....may be in time more people would join us
[Yeneta] besides, there are still some technical glitches
[Yeneta] the window darts up and down everytime someone sends a message
[misqilqil] Yeneta, is Java messed up?
[Yeneta] it is not easy to log in
[RKD] i can't see why this chat can't put on it's gilgel suri and settle down :)
[Yeneta] I guess so
[RKD] gilgel suri is like underwear ;)
[misqilqil] yeneta, how did u come across seleda?
[Yeneta] people told me about it
[Yeneta] like a year ago or so
[Yeneta] and I have been checking you out since then
[Seledama] guest80 how did you hear about seleda?
[Yeneta] and loving you
[misqilqil] guest 80 is mulling tings over
* Seledama and the other Seleda interns are loving Yeneta too. the editors would love you too if they weren't in Monte Carlo..
[misqilqil] Yeneta, u have good taste. ;-)
[Yeneta] :)
[Seledama] how slow does guest80 mull
[Seledama] bruck, stop private-messaging and get back in here...
[RKD] so slow that Bush can spell strategery faster!
[RKD] ha ha ha!
[misqilqil] guest80 is in mull remedial classes.
[Yeneta] hehe
[Yeneta] I didn't know you could do that here
[Yeneta] thanks for telling me
* Seledama giggles at RKD
[Seledama] yeneta, you are of course in AP mull
[misqilqil] is Red on private message macking someone?
[Seledama] dunno, misq...probably chatting with Bruck who is being very quiet
[Red] no I'm listening

* Seledama ij mensat's Daed
[Daedalus] i'll be back

And we waited and waited and waited for guest80 to speak....

[Seledama] guest80, still mulling?
[Bruck] seledama: how about some talk on politics
[Bruck] and sex
[Bruck] like the illegal stuff
[misqilqil] political sex is SO overrated.
[RKD] SO last millennium
[Seledama] bruck, you know the rule about politics...
[misqilqil] SO 15 mins ago.
* Seledama giggles at RKD

And we waited....

[Red] I think one of the reason Seleda is successful is because of the combination of too articulation and flexibility of putting Amharic for words we don't know how to articulate.
[Bruck] rkd: i guess yimechih nnew mibal
[Bruck] Red now that's serious stuff
[Bruck] Red, mao lenin minamin negger nnew astesabish... i like red
[Bruck] WHO IS RED?
[Seledama] red, do you think that Seleda is too articulate? some do say the words are too big but i find they are rarely inappropriate. but that's me..
[misqilqil] Seleda uses words nicely. but sometimes... je june
[Seledama] je who?
[RKD] Red's redness is a little sickle and hammerish kinda redness ;-)
[misqilqil] je shewanQoChew.
* Seledama likes a little commie now and then...
[Seledama] if i ever have a son, that's going to be his name...poor sod. ShewanQoChew Seledama
[Red] They are too articulate, for good. It's totally okay. But, I'm sure writers who write accept that "challenge"
[misqilqil] RKD... Hammerish and sickleish.... tee hee.
[Red] I AM NOT A COMMI, seriously

We thought talk of liquor would intice guest80... but, nooooo...

[misqilqil] did you guys know that there was areQE called "innant inna lij".
[Seledama] oh puhleeze, misq. that is the government issue areQE.
[misqilqil] am i the only alki in here?
[Red] Seledama, thank you
[Seledama] welcome, dear Red.
[Seledama] yep, misq, you da likkered up one
[Red] Seledama, try it. you don't know what you are missin
[Red] of course, misq.
[Seledama] red, you like inat'na lij, or you mean the qurT. cuz i've had both and ewwww..
[Red] everyone knows that misq., what is the matter with you
[misqilqil] what does innat inna lij taste like?
[Seledama] like sambucca but so very not italian
[Seledama] like cheap ouzo more
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[Seledama] hello qelebeleb...what would you like to drink with your NO POLITICS chat?
[misqilqil] qelebleb and misqilqil would make a great couple.
[Seledama] tying up my fingers trying to type it already
[Red] it rhymes to
Gin!!!
[Red] straight?
* Seledama serves up a good Tanqueray with tonic, i assume?
always
[Seledama] ooops...take away the tonic
[Seledama] so qelb...heh heh...what is on your mind tonight?

* Seledama reminds everyone that she can boot whoever whenever wherever...i love power!

seleda is elitist that is what makes it so good
[Seledama] qeleb...have some more gin...talk to us some more
[Red] no, it's not bad if you have goal of making it "accessible" to a wider reader
[Seledama] red, i know that's what some people would like. but really to operationalize that, what would it mean?
[Seledama] on the narrowest end of the spectrum, it might mean finding smaller words for big ones and substituting.

At least God senr us Guest90...

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[Guest90] deeep ij mensat yeneger new
[Seledama] guest90,...ere ndaw'm! so did you read the article? did you find something noteworthy on seleda? do you write? breathe?
[misqilqil] he hee gust90.
* Cagedbird_singing checks g90's pulse
[Cagedbird_singing] let's bid money on this!
[Seledama] hi guest86...welcome! can we serve you a refreshing drink, preferably with an umbrella in it?
yeah... why not?
[misqilqil] guest90's pulse rate: dm-dm-dddddddmmmm-dmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[Seledama] i'm a gamblin' babe. what are we betting?
[Guest90] does this room have a private thingie
[Guest90] ?
[misqilqil] private thinggy. don't we all have private thinggys?
[Cagedbird_singing] i bet g90 is actually still in here, but busy being entertained by RKD hitting on him
[Seledama] guest90 if you want to private message anyone, right click on their name and choose p2p
[Bruck] seledama: yinfesibih
[Guest90] to tell you the truth, I don't know which one of the guests I am
[Seledama] misq, you are bad!
[Guest90] there is no highlighted nick
[Guest90] in the list
[Cagedbird_singing] i put a solid DOLLAR on that
[Seledama] you are guest90...in the duh category
any discussion of the article?
[Guest90] hehehe
[Seledama] yeah, it was pretty good, 86.. what did you want to add?
[Guest90] loved it loved it loved it
[Seledama] oooh, i think i'm gonna like 90. what exactly did you love about it?
[Guest90] endih new enji metsaf
[misqilqil] Guest zeTena.... did u figure out the thinggy.
okay this is pretty boring... goodbye and good luck!!
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[Guest90] the descriptions, the picture painting with words
[Guest90] the woman who almost brought tears out of my ever dry eyes
[Seledama] the zmbs...the washing water
[Seledama] more more more 90
i noticed that the writing on seleda is becoming a bit sentimental
[Guest90] and the netela, how she cleans his face
[Guest90] and how he feels she loves him
[Seledama] qelb, is that bad? we're a sentimental, melancholy people, no? yeah yeah i'm generalizing. jeez, i'm gonna get a complex.
[misqilqil] i think i like guest 90
[Guest90] and the funeral procession
[misqilqil] i was saying about the ending... i died when i read the ending...
[Seledama] guest90 read the stuff! wowee
[Seledama] and yet resurrected, misq.
[Guest90] howthe father carried the corpse of his duaghter
[Guest90] you wouldn't think he would ever desert his wife
[Guest90] but he does
[Guest90] men!
[Seledama] oh that was wonderful, 90. i also was in awe over the non-judging tone. you don't hate the father, just pity his lack of depth.
[Guest90] but honestly, I loved the matter of fact style of the story
[Seledama] a woman, 90? or just an agent provocateur?
[Guest90] hehe
[misqilqil] is guest90 still drinking expensive seleda drinks?
[Guest90] hehe
[Seledama] i think so...i'm keeping him plied with likker
[Seledama] more gin?
[misqilqil] i think guest 90 is a girl.
[Guest90] you don't have dagim?
[Guest90] and didn't I say I am a woman, thank god
[Seledama] yaw'm yegojam
* Seledama orders dagm for Guest90...ere ydegem!
[Guest90] sekemekim madere new
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[misqilqil] biissssss
[Guest90] ena bachiru
[Seledama] hello sefanit! welcome! can i get you something smooth and delicious while you chat (that would be a drink, ere!)
[Guest90] seleda is about to become
[Guest90] indispensable
[sefanit] ah, you are too kind...actually a nice cafe latte for the late nighter wuld be sweeet
* Seledama serves up another inat'na lij for misq
[Guest90] or has become I might say
* Seledama goes through a super-speedy coffee ceremony and gets a delicious seenee of abol for sefanit.
[Guest90] dagim for guest 90 and abol for sefanit
[Seledama] guest90, i like where you're going with this. are you a writer, by any chance?
[Guest90] i have a q
[Seledama] go, 90
[misqilqil] guest910 HAS to be a writer... indE, Seledama. use the woman's intuition.
[Guest90] do you have difficulty publishing amharic pieces
[Guest90] ?
[Seledama] my intuition is out of the night...
[Seledama] difficulty how?
[Seledama] putting them up means someone has to type them up, and then they go up as an image usually. right?
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[Guest90] because you might not have the software that the writer used to print the piexe
[Guest90] piece
*** Com-mon is now known as FreeVerser

Does it make sense to talk about literature AFTER getting all likkered up?

[Seledama] caged, welcome back as the new you. identity crisis?
Seledama, it's clinical
[Seledama] oops...i meant to say my intuition is out for the night. thanks for catching the typo.
[Seledama] hi Freeverser...didn't see you come in. what would you like to drink (and are you a hacker?)
[misqilqil] Guest90.... i don't think there is difficulty unless someone uses... wordperfect or nuthin'
[Guest90] hehe
Seldama, i told u, i'd rather take the cash equivalent
[misqilqil] :-)
[Seledama] oh. duh. sorry com-mon freeverser
misq, funny
[Guest90] because I have heard people complaining that they were unable to get their amharic pieces published
[Guest90] at seleda
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[misqilqil] wait.... can someone offer ME a drink. Yemin parching me new ityE!
[Guest90] I love free verse poet
[Guest90] I mean poem
guest90, u like free verse poetry?
[Guest90] uh huh
kewl, kewl ...
[Seledama] really, 90? it's true that some pieces are turned down for a number of reasons...but not because they're in amharic.
any favorites?
[sefanit] and now i'm waiting for free verse poetry to let free verse poetry happen!
[Guest90] because poetry is not just a mere contriving of meters and rhymes
[Seledama] didn't i just give misq another drink. yemn mooching off the chatroom bar, new.
awlright, lay it down 90 ... please continue
* Seledama pours Misqlql some Mad Dog 20/20
[Guest90] it is the depth of the thought, unrestricted by antiquated conventions
[Guest90] when you worry about the package, the content suffers
[Seledama] guest90 do you go to/perform at slams?
haha
well put
but sometimes the package embodies the content
[misqilqil] the amharic poetry so far has been great. they are not .... gimme my mofer and Qenber and lets us go a maressing" kind. amharic poetry has a tendency to do that. or should i say, people have a tendency to do that with amariNa poetry.
[sefanit] should not poetry be felt and not measured....?
[Seledama] if seleda came in a siddd-nbab package with no images, cool fonts, would you still visit as often? like if that Seleda Berenda with the images and poetry had just been lines of text, would you have read it?
i mean, don't u think there are a lot of pseudo-poets/free verses nowadays?
[Guest90] amharic poetry has been maferia, except a couple of giants
who think anything esoteric is ART?
i mean, esoteric verse that is ...
[sefanit] esoteric...big word for tired minds....
[Guest90] I am sure there are charlatans in every field
true true
[Guest90] but it is for the enlightened reader to separate the wheat from the chaff
[Guest90] so to speak
truth, heard that
the good apples, from the bad ones
[misqilqil] especially in amariNa... i think because amariNa is so laden with double meanings... people try to hide behind that... my, er, hulet santm.
misq, i didn't know that.
[Guest90] so free verser do you write poetry?
interesting
[misqilqil] just mabeTers the mofer from the Qenber.
[Guest90] I do
[Guest90] I like poetry that uses simple language but conveys a really deep thought
[Guest90] poetry that doesn't masquerade murky thoughts in the opacity of high flying language
g90, hmmm ....
[Guest90] cause I read some poems written for the people
[Guest90] and I find them really difficult to understand
d'you know this contemporary called saul?
[Guest90] and I say to myself, if I, as a well read literature lover,(and modest) fail to get it
[Guest90] how will the sefi hizb?
[sefanit] err...errr...er...
[Guest90] hehe
[sefanit] enough said.
g90, ur too modest
doncha luv humility
[misqilqil] hehe Guest90. i love snobbery.
* Seledama throws out the buna and makes another pot of just abol for sefanit
[Guest90] humility
[Guest90] is a good thing
[sefanit] hehe. not much admit love of snobbery. so nice to finally hear somebody say it.
[Seledama] i'm still thinkin' guest90 is a guy.
[Guest90] beliku
but i mean, since poetry, as sefanit said, is a combination of sounds, why not be manipulative w/ language?
[RKD] nobody made me any angol coffee when i stepped in :-(
[Seledama] 90, more gin?
[Guest90] what makes you think so. seledama
crafty w/ rhetoric?
[Seledama] you wuz here, hodE.
[misqilqil] guest90... do u get stuff written on seleda?
[Seledama] dunno...as i said, my intuition is an outie tonite
[RKD] "why'd you kill everybody in the house?" ... "they wuz there"
[Seledama] RKD you are my hero! i love that joke.
[Seledama] or did i tell it to you?
[Seledama] hmmmm
[sefanit] sometimes words can be an elitist weapon of obscurity and snobberyy...but at times, we can own the words...
[Seledama] go'head sefanit
[Guest90] and freeverser
[RKD] heard it on some standup thing i think ...
* Seledama serves RKD whatever he wants. how about some of that AddisAbeba-gureNa drink Johnny Walker Blue Label?
[misqilqil] what is snobbish literature, anyway?
[Guest90] the best poems that I have read are written in hat they call free verse
[Guest90] what
[Guest90] so my advise to you is
[Guest90] keep freeversing
[Seledama]guest90, do you consider rap to be an example of free verse?
[misqilqil] Seledama inna RKD... esti Qenesssssssssssssssssssssss.
i dunno whether to be impressed or disappointed at ur beverage collection
then again, it puts a lotta things in perspective.
* Seledama sticks her tongue out at misq
[sefanit] rap...when its freestyling can be a beautiful creation...
[Guest90] don't let yourself be entangled in the mire of measuring up words
[sefanit] ere, respect. yehae tongue sticking out menden new!
[sefanit] sene sereAt!
[sefanit] measuring up by syllables or making them elite or of the masses?
[Guest90] seledama is a woman
[Guest90] hmm
[Guest90] why did I think it was a man
[Seledama] touché, guest90!
[Guest90] I guess free verser is scribblng some freeverse about seleda chatroom
Seledama, evian ... it's been a while. if that's not asking too
* FreeVersePoet tries to remember the last time she had a mud bath w/ Evian water ... actually, make that 30 bottles
[sefanit] wouldn't it be nice if there was such a unifier amongst ethiopia's up and coming artists...
[sefanit] collection collaboration with beautiful production..
[Guest90] and there are lots of them blooming
sefanit, visionary
[sefanit] and package pretty also.
[Guest90] hehe
[sefanit] i like cause you like.. all the places you will go said dr. seuss..
[Guest90] funny
[Guest90] but hey, do something with this chatroom to make it user friendly
* Seledama has a jerry-can of evian ready for FreeVersePoet anytime she'd like...it's being warmed along with this fresh sifted gonder clay for your mudbath.
[misqilqil] brb
[Guest90] haha
[sefanit] brb? is this computolingo?

[Guest90] I had difficulty logging in
[Guest90] and using the jave version

But back to guest80...

[Seledama] guest80, haven't you mulled enough? can't i tempt you with a nice shot of single malt...my fave?
[Guest90] when there is a crowd, there won't be shortage of ideas
[Guest90] seleda rules
[misqilqil] i am back.
[misqilqil] have we determined if g90 is a man?
[Guest90] as if
[Seledama] yeah, it's a guy
* Seledama goes to guest90 to make sure
[Seledama] guest90, drop 'em
[Guest90] gibi gibi, bet lengida
[Seledama] see? told you it was a man?
[sefanit] eewwww....
[Guest90] hehehe
[misqilqil] er... who dat guest 80?
*** FreeVersePoet is now known as Ditz
[Seledama] shhh...i'm thinking that's the management plant.

Maybe Shenkorit can will guest80 to speak....

*** Shenkorit has joined #Lobby
[Shenkorit] wow...this thing lasted for 3 hrs?
[Shenkorit] i'm impressed
[Seledama] hello shenkorit! welcome to the chat. what can i tempt you with ... in the drink category, that is?
[sefanit] one who is lost is better silent and watching by observing...
[sefanit] who is zmb mekasha?
bye ppl
[misqilqil] sefanit is getting loopy.
[Shenkorit] Seledama lite birz...
* Seledama gently pours out the Birz Lite from the dembejan for Shenkorit
[RKD] ciao ditziye
[misqilqil] Shenkorit, we are playing a game of "is guest 90 a man or a woman"/
< [Guest90] hehe
[Guest90] she can tell by the sound of my laughter
[sefanit] ahhhh!!! now it comes back to me!
[sefanit] but of course...
[sefanit] the zmb...
[Shenkorit] Seledama ...hmm...so what's a nice aselafi like you doing in a place like this?
[Seledama] good save, sefanit. now say something to prove you've actually read it
[Shenkorit] misqilqil a man..naturally.
[sefanit] and the children would tease and make him eat it and the balebet would vent out her anger on mekasha's mother and he was the son that survived!
[misqilqil] Sefanit... you have read it!
[misqilqil] good girl.
* Seledama grins at sefanit...
[Shenkorit] ene emlew...endet RKD sew selam atilim?
[Shenkorit] well my good people, if you don't mind, i'd rather we discuss an article from last months issue
[Shenkorit] that piece by the nazreth school (mamateb-ing) girl.
*** Moi has joined #Lobby

After Moi gets in the picture.... BeQa... aleQe...

[Seledama] moi! welcome to the berCha(t). would you like some coke with your leafy greens?
[Moi] no, miss piggy don't do that, m'dear!
[Guest90] shenkorit, wants to discuss an article from last months issue
[Guest90] go ahead shenk
[misqilqil] Shenkorit.... go ahead.
[Guest90] we are all ears
[Guest90] me at least
[Shenkorit] *sigh*...i'm too tired to be mean...and that just disqualifies me from reviewing any article.
misq must be a guy :)
decidedly
[misqilqil] other than dangelo... who i don't know what that is.
[RKD] shenkorit ... do i know thee?
[Guest90] Moi
[Shenkorit] RKD well..in every way but the biblical sense mon cheri
[RKD] ok, now i'm REALLY paranoid
[misqilqil] RKD is "the most wanted baby daddy."
[Shenkorit] RKD...u'r cute when ur paranoid
[misqilqil] Shenkorit... spill it sister.

[misqilqil] i wanna hear the shenkorit gmgema on the Nazret school girl's article.
[Moi] gasp!!
[Moi] please NO!!
[misqilqil] heh heh... is guest 90 out macking someone?
[Shenkorit] misqilqil... well... it brought tears to my eyes...
[RKD] is that the equivalent of ak-ing someone?
[RKD] mack 10s ... ak47s ... how come flirting took after a gun? hmm
[misqilqil] :-) me too. i thought... "THIS is why i need to read seleda."
[misqilqil] anchi qum negereNa.
[misqilqil] ye Qalat aderaderu... Shenkorit.. i said to myself, i am a nothing.
[sefanit] which wan waz nazret school article?
* Seledama reminds all parties that Seleda Incorporated has agreed not to mention certain single-sex catholic establishments in vain.
[Moi] lol
[Guest90] or badmouth them to be exact
[Moi] but nobody ever talks about katedral
[sefanit] gud new...you go to inner ring of 'hellinos' for that one!
* Seledama joins RKD on said-jelba and beats off the other wannabe's
[Moi] don't it rate a mention??
[Seledama] Moi bemotkut...may i say that the blue uniforms y'all wore just rocked?
[Shenkorit] misqilqil & Seledama you too?? enem i was humbled new yemilachihu.... i couldn't leave my house for days.... lemin?...
[Guest90] hehe
[Shenkorit] misqilqil... it was like so...entin.... beqa... so deep and meaningful..you know... if mother theresa had the milk of goodness flowing through her veins...our nazereth awaQi had the CREAM of human goodness flowing through...and the the the...*wait let me catch my breath*...ere argebgibulign...i'm getting excited here....besmeab.... min yibalal....just ... pa pa pa...

But somehow we always manage to veer away from Qum neger...why is that???

[Moi] my sister used her darmar sendel as a launchable weapon
[misqilqil] my darmar sendel Chama is now a plant holder at my grandma's. talk about recycle.
[RKD] what, Darmar merged with Fubu?
[Seledama] Fubu's chinese? man...
[Moi] STOP THE MADNESS!!!
[Moi] REIGN IT IN, PEEPS!!
[Moi] CAN WE GO TO THE GHINDU
[sefanit] hahahahohohoohheehheoehaifheoifheiah
[Moi] ER....IS THERE A GHIND ANYMORE???
[sefanit] this is such fertile ground for rumors of the most absurd kind!
[RKD] ghindu? any relation to ghandi?
[sefanit] i like i like!
[misqilqil] is guest 90 around?
[RKD] or that diabilos-ashkeroch at that miserable hospital?
[Guest90] alehu alehu
[misqilqil] zeTena.... ration kardon yizew hibert suq nu.
[Moi] row, row, row your boat
[Moi] gently down the stream
[Moi] merrily merrily merrily
[Shenkorit] how do u say row in amharic
[Moi] life is but a dream
[RKD] Qizef Qizef Qizef jelbahin
[Shenkorit] hahahaha
[RKD] Qess bileh wenzu laiiiii
[Moi] qizefu, qizefu jelbawin
[Moi] qes bilachihu wenzu lai
[Shenkorit] u all iz crazy
[Moi] bedesita, bedesita, bedesita
[RKD] beDestea beDesta beDesta
[Seledama] what did you all think of the Headliners in last month's seleda?
[Moi] nuro hilm newaaaaaaaa
[sefanit] nuro helm new!
[RKD] nuro hilm silehoneeeeee
[Shenkorit] Seledama it was good to get a new list of people to stalk
[sefanit] life is BUT a dream. the but is very important.
[Seledama] sheko, you a stalker?! me too! we gotta hang together!
[RKD] hiwot meQemeCHa ena hilm newwwww
[RKD] better, sefanit?
[misqilqil] nuro inde hilm aydelem?
[Seledama] lmao at RKD...irreverent
[sefanit] ooh. you tickle my funny bone and my spleen will burst.\
[Moi] but the but is not a conjunction in this case
[sefanit] lmao? le mao tse dung? ere lmao menden new?
[Moi] so the but does not translate to a Ghin, 'kay
[RKD] laugh my a-dollar sign-dollar sign off
[Seledama] nuro kale hlm mnm aydelemn'a
[sefanit] ewww. okay gramma teacha number one!
[Moi] sefanitiyE it's laughing my ass off
[Seledama] sefanity...is that like sanity north of boston?
[sefanit] what is?
[Seledama] sefanity
[misqilqil] i think this is all too low brow for guest90.
[sefanit] what's laughing your ass off?
[sefanit] is what like sanity?
[Seledama] lmao = Laughing My Ass Off
[Shenkorit] ayee neger raqutun kalmeta...
[sefanit] ohhhh!! hehe. i knew thaatt!
[Moi] wiy, tankew!
[Guest90] guest 90 is keeping guest 80 company in pvt
[misqilqil] *Extra Extra... guest 90 is breathing now.
[Shenkorit] so what did you guys think about the VOA interview
* Seledama slides two 40s to RKD
[Seledama] shenkorit, more importantly, what did YOU think of the interview?
[Moi] this is way too lowenbrau for moi
[Seledama] mais, reste alors.
[misqilqil] WHY are there so many men on the Seleda board.. on the VOA interview.
[Moi] maybe i just need some lowenbrau
[Seledama] tadya lowenbrau atlm neber?
[Moi] alesh?
[Seledama] misq, good question...
[Shenkorit] and why do they insist on talking about washint and the whole wind insturments trend is like so ten minuites ago
[Moi] amCHiwa!
[sefanit] is lowenbrau like out worldlye energetic nervous brother rolling a unicorn?
* Seledama slides three lowenbraus and one saint pauli's girl (gotta diversify) down the bar at Moi. Not me...but Moi.
[Seledama] 0uh oh...sefanit on a roll.
[Moi] mais, merci, ma chere!
[sefanit] mais merci ma cherie, aussi!;)
[Moi] glug...glug...Ahhhhhhhh!!
[Seledama] je t'en prie. alors...no burping.
[Moi] urp!
[Moi] eeps, too late
[sefanit] mais pourquoi!?
[Seledama] ;o)
[sefanit] c'est degolace ca...
[misqilqil] I like the washint part, actually. i liked the concept of it when i read it on LDs first.
[sefanit] degoutant!
[Seledama] i'm a verrrry well-brought up gentlewoman...in a frrrrrrench accent
[misqilqil] why don't u like it Shenkorit?
[misqilqil] inante TaTewech
[Moi] wa! shinte meTa
[Seledama] ere sefanit with ze français...tu etais au lycée?
[Shenkorit] misqilqil well, keep in mind that i don't like anything..
[Moi] maybe dats why shenko don't like it
[misqilqil] Shenkorit.. lijE... awrii
[Moi] what am i still doing here?!
*** Moi has quit IRC
[misqilqil] heh heh... you anarchist, shenko. i thought it was sweet.
[Seledama] Shenkorit, had you heard the Washnt example before? i admit it was music to my ears when i first read it, and it seems like a good motto for our "kind" if there's such a thing
[Shenkorit] it was so serious...for a moment there the person discussing it sounded like a character out of 'As Bole Turns
[Seledama] wiy...so Moi left?
[Shenkorit] ohh..i'm being mean again..someone kick me out...
[misqilqil] :-)
* Seledama slaps Shenkorit...we don't deport in this chatroom...we punish!
[Shenkorit] eshi getaye..can i have a fresh one
[sefanit] mais non, je n'etais pas au lycee...mais il y a quelques autre Lugares(en espanol...places..) ou je peux apprendre le langue, no?
[misqilqil] i can see that... "INa... hulanchim indeminawQew... Washint inwedaleN..."
[Seledama] hey, did you all read As Bole Turns?!
[RKD] was Moi any relation to Arap?
* Seledama tries to remember what Shenkorit would like to drink...brz neber? Lite brz?
[sefanit] hehe. you would think that.
[sefanit] as bole turns...is that real?
[misqilqil] i think it was birz frappe.
[Shenkorit] seledama i log on every month for that...
[Seledama] mais oui, sefanit, mais je te trouve tres sympa -- mais tu as raison. je m'excuse
[Shenkorit] the rest is miriqat
[Seledama] ugh...hope not.
[misqilqil] As bole turns... ahhhh... i miss those people.
[RKD] ah bon! tout le everybody speaking le francais up in ici, abo!
[sefanit] as bole turns...are people serious? it existing...?>
[Shenkorit] misqilqil miss them?...minew? *paranoid..looks around*.... it is not getting canceled is it?
[misqilqil] RKD reminds me of someone on Bole Turns.
[Seledama] mixin' it all up in ici. afE QurrrrrrrrrT ybel'lh!
[RKD] mechEEEEE? :)
[Seledama] shenkorit, when is a good thing too much of a good thing?
[sefanit] eh porque tu vas a couper ta bouche? ere teyiw!!
[Seledama] misq, if i send you a private message, would you know how to read it?
[misqilqil] i thought the finale was like two months ago? did i miss a bole 5?
[Shenkorit] Seledama when the kebele tries to make it a kefetegna-wide program
[sefanit] ere tewu. chelema west atetewugn. what is as bole turns?
[RKD] misqilqil? who do i remind you of?
* Seledama lobs sefanit-bcha grin her way
[misqilqil] yes, seledama... Sefanit.... mnew?
[Shenkorit] misqilqil but Docterinetachew kibur Dr Raselas has been making guest appearances..
[Seledama] lmao at shenkorit
[misqilqil] ay sefanit! ferencaii bcha mehon mn yaregal?
[RKD] it's what happens when ayorplannn takes off and all the chuchewoch in thier ghibi's in bole look up and turn thier heads in sync to the movement of the plane
[RKD] used to happen everyday at 6:12pm ... almost a ritual
[misqilqil] LOL RK.... hoo hoo... ehem. Sefanit... As Bole Turns was a cyber "soap opera" on Seleda.
[sefanit] lmaofleijsldfmah!
[Seledama] lEla new lEla lEla new...tesafari new (an ode to Abonesh Adinew's great album)
[RKD] is that the woman who sings the CHefiri-bireri-cherQishin-Tilesh-QiliTTT-bilesh-ibejiii-yilegnal song?
[sefanit] but who is french becha? i am also dominicano!
[Seledama] mais falu portugues? o habla espanol?
[Shenkorit] ere be hig amalk
[sefanit] hablo el espanol pero puedo bailar el samba!:)
[RKD] parla italiano?
[sefanit] ante TRAITOR TO THE CAUSE!
[misqilqil] ere sile mariam! abo!
[sefanit] pastam ebelalehu endatelegn! menew!
[misqilqil] the arrivistes are so annoying.
[Shenkorit] lol
[RKD] lol
* [RKD] squirms in shame. .... yes, yes, i've crossed over. *sniff*
[sefanit] arrivites? ohoh. word unknown. may day may day....
[misqilqil] arrivisties.
[Seledama] misqilqil, do you speak wefff...mizisiziqiziliziqizilizi
[misqilqil] arrivists
[Shenkorit] lololol
[Shenkorit] uffffey
[misqilqil] :-)
[Seledama] arrivistes, please
[sefanit] uhh....arrival? like plane arrival? a river?
[sefanit] arrivistees?
[misqilqil] ya!
[Shenkorit] e
[RKD] azabozo!
[sefanit] people that have arrived?
[misqilqil] danka, baby.
*** Guest90 has quit IRC (Ping timeout )

And not a peep from guest80....

[misqilqil] guest80... what did u do to guest 90?
[Shenkorit] not me
[misqilqil] shenkorit... are we done with that article par excellence?
[Shenkorit] misqilqil i think u should dedicate an entire issue to her..
[misqilqil] i liked guest 90. VERY funny... until guest 80 maffened him.
[sefanit] seledama, thank you for the reassurance. i thought i was losing my sight!
[sefanit] is guest 90 gone?
[Seledama] i guess so. wiy guest80 bcha nachew yeQerut.
[misqilqil] antu guest 80!
[sefanit] so much respect. so beautiful.
[Seledama] misq, not so fast. are you sending me qwanTa anytime soon? cuz that's REAL love.
[misqilqil] Real love is... overrated.
[Seledama] misq....if you were a foTa, i'd hang you up at the Shola fooool bEt.
[misqilqil] the QuanTa that i have, however, is not!
[Seledama] misq, if you were a kalsee, i'd put you on a St.Joe temari's foot until you could stand up all by yo lonesome
[Shenkorit] my effort to make quanta firfir with beef jerky...yuck...didn't turn out so good
[misqilqil] i sense hostility.
[sefanit] that's just straight up cruelty...
[Seledama] misq, if you were a darmar sendel, i'd send you to Asko to be ridiculed by your betters
[sefanit] go get 'em!
[Seledama] misq, if you were a Qebeto, i'd put you on that guy who can't see his feet for his borCH.
[sefanit] fight fight fight!
[RKD] third foot? ayeeee ...
[RKD] aside: does darmar make condoms?
[sefanit] BCUDE=blood curdling upto dread ends!
[misqilqil] did i tell you that now i have all this quanTa with CHoma on it that i don't know what to do with? did i just end a sentence with a pre.?
[Seledama] rkd, not that i know of.
[Seledama] shoulda been "with which i didn't know what to do", and the answer is "ew...don't send it to me"
[misqilqil] Darmar condom...now there is a condom that will never break.
[Seledama] but who would want to be the condom-wearer's object of ...iyyyyy...yQr.
[Shenkorit] there's a condom ad in addis...and there is a picture of a guy on it..his name is mike...he moved back from here...anyway..now in conversation if his name comes up...mike? ...mike condom?
[Shenkorit] it would be sad if it wasn't so funny
* Seledama scream
[RKD] LMAO
[RKD] ROTFFLMFAFOOOOOOOOOOO
[misqilqil] oh my God..... can u imagine his dad's mortified look??
* sefanit squeeze you until tenfas eskiyater!
[Seledama] y'all, i'm giving a two minute warning...but RKD will likely stay and chat awhile...
[misqilqil] the directions on a condom in Addis starts like this: "Mejemeria biliton yawTu". which i thought was so polite.
[Shenkorit] lol
[sefanit] ewww.....
[sefanit] there's something so...RAW...about that word.
[Seledama] damn...this woulda been the best test for guest90
[misqilqil] it is faradize.

And one last tug at guest80 ....

[Seledama] guest80, bemotE, mn lamTa. mnm sayTeTu ndew CHlT malet?
[Shenkorit] lrotf
[misqilqil] ciao. shenkorit. i like your style.
[Shenkorit] ciao misqilqil not as much as i like yours...and i don't like anything so..
* Seledama splat
[RKD] ere Telatish yisplat
[Shenkorit] eshi belu... melkam mishit
[Seledama] ciao shenkorit...great chatting with you
[Shenkorit] stay abesha....keep it real
[sefanit] ere good night from this end also. there is work yet to be finished. it has been extremeley...esniff esniff...
[sefanit] what can i say...
[RKD] oh no ... "keep it real"?
[Shenkorit] seledama ciao dear
* Seledama does the abesha-black-power salute thing (fist raised high but knees together
[Shenkorit] RKD yes..that's what i heard in DC...he made a fist and told me to stay abesha...and keep it real
[RKD] mindinew sinibit? koi gena werewun berenda lai mewsed alebn eko
[Shenkorit] as if i had a choice
[RKD] i hate that tired expression ... keeeep eeeet reeeeeeeeeeeeel.
[Seledama] you could try being japanese a bit
[sefanit] berendaw ly kehaeden seraeyen techeresaleh?
* [RKD] grumbles
[Shenkorit] Seledama i tried...then the yen took a dive and ....
* Seledama mababel's RKD
[Seledama] hee hee shenkorit...ain't that a bit**?
[Seledama] memotE new...rabeN...dekemeN...sra alebN...indEt Tyach'hu liheed? wiy wiy yenuro seqeqenE!
[Seledama] 6,0now that there is some good down home irrrorrro.
[Shenkorit] ere kemir ciao
[Seledama] inEm ciao
[sefanit] ciao then to alll....
[Shenkorit] ciao RKD, misqilqil, sefanit, seledama...
[Seledama] RKD keep hope alive...
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[Seledama] guest80...i guess my hospitality was not up to your standards. yhoon...meches...next time i'll have to try harder.
[sefanit] alKasha!
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